Burnout-Proof Your Visibility: Energy, Focus, and Longevity with Dr. Partha Nandi | Ep. 69

Are your book goals being crushed by burnout or brain fog? What if the missing piece isn’t time management—but biology? In this episode, Dr. Partha Nandi, bestselling author, physician, and host of the syndicated show Ask Dr. Nandi, reveals how energy, focus, and health directly fuel long-term author success. Your energy, not your platform, might be the real reason your book isn’t done.

Whether you're writing, pitching, launching, or speaking—this episode breaks down the five science-backed lifestyle shifts that protect your energy and build real visibility. These aren’t hacks. They’re habits for sustainable success.

🎧 If you’re ready to protect your focus and burnout-proof your platform, hit play now.

What You’ll Learn:

• The 5 lifestyle pillars behind every productive, visible author
• How energy biology—not willpower—fuels creativity and consistent output
• Why your book goals need purpose (not just more hustle)

Resources Mentioned:

• Dr. Nandi's website: https://www.askdrnandi.com
• Dr. Nandi's book: Ask Dr. Nandi: 5 Steps to Becoming Your Own #HealthHero for Longevity, Well-Being, and a Joyful Life: https://bookshop.org/a/55773/9781501156823 
• Dr. Nandi’s book: Heal Your Gut, Save Your Brain - The Five Pillars of Enhancing Your Gut and Optimizing Your Cognitive Health: https://bookshop.org/a/55773/9798887701790 
• Connect Dr. Nandi on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/askdrnandi/ 
• Follow Dr. Nandi on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/AskDrNandiChannel 
• Book Reco: Indistractable - How to Control Your Attention and Choose Your Life: https://bookshop.org/a/55773/9781948836531 

Timestamps Highlights:

• 08:44 – Why biology, not time, is your energy edge
• 19:15 – The 5 wellness pillars for sustainable visibility
• 36:20 – How purpose increases focus and longevity
• 48:50 – Health habits that power media presence
• 53:12 – What every author can do today to gain clarity and momentum

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Transcript

Dr. Nandi: 0:00

Even if people don't agree with you, right? There are many people I'm sure you don't agree with and I don't agree with, but you can tell the passion and you can understand their sense of purpose that that's coming through. And whether you like it or not, that will attract you to them.

Allison: 0:41

Welcome back to the Author's Edge. And listen, I hear from you every week that you are inspired, but you're still caught up of I don't know how I'm going to do this, or I hear this a lot. I'm dealing with a health situation. I plan to take this effort back up in the summer or maybe in the fall when I'm feeling better. This happens all the time. People have health setbacks. They have mindset setbacks. And today, we're going to dive into them really quickly because Dr. Partha Nandi is here with us who's first of all, he's been on Oprah, he's a keynote speaker, he's a gastroenterologist, and he got his start being this big time. Bestselling author and superstar speaker because he had a medical practice and he started contributing to his local media. Baby steps. people. before I start talking way too much, Dr. Andy, thank you so much for being with us.

Dr. Nandi: 1:48

Awesome. Thank you for having me. You're amazing. Just, I spent a few minutes with you and you're just a breath of fresh air, so thanks for having me on.

Allison: 1:54

Gosh, thanks. I'm going to flirt now. It's 90,000 degrees here in Boston today, so I'm getting flushed because I have the German red skin and we can't help it. Okay. So, listen I'm sure you see telltale signs all the time when you see people making decisions when they are pursuing something, but their health and their energy gets in the way, especially energy. So, what's that mistake that you see that SAPs energy?

Dr. Nandi: 2:30

Yeah, that's an important question, right? Because especially, I'm a doc, right? And people who are physicians and doctors are, we're famous for this. And what happens is that I think I'll let you know my story that when energy comes in, energy is finite, you only have a certain amount of it. To me, staying on point, staying within what you're doing at the time that you're doing it. Being mindful is absolutely the key because what happens is that it's the classic, if you've ever been in a party, Allison, where you're talking to someone and they seem riveted, but every so often they're looking beyond you to find the next coolest person that they can talk to. They're in your conversation, but they're going the next step. So what I mean by that is, so you have to first define for yourself if you're a professional, talking about these rockstar people. We talked before we got on air. There's so many people that are massively talented and they want to spread that knowledge, that talent elsewhere. But they get stymied. They get bogged down. And I think part of it is really being present at the time that you're doing whatever you're doing at the very moment you're thinking about it. So, for example, if you're writing a book, then you basically write the book. You're not answering texts, you're not walking over to the fridge to talk to your children you have to be mindful and be focused and be goal oriented So when you go back, you say, okay, first of all what is it that I want to accomplish? I tell, when I have my keynotes, even when I'm talking to my family or talking to my patients, it's very similar. I ask them, what is it that you want to accomplish? What is it that to me, is your purpose. Once you have your purpose defined. If you want to, for example, do what I'm doing, which is do a television show write a book, write bestselling books and being able to be on social and digital media. Why are you doing it? I know for me it started very early when I was a child, I nearly died of rheumatic heart disease. It's a disease not a lot of people know about. I had heart failure. And as a child, my parents went from doctor to doctor trying to find a solution until we found a doctor, Dr. Chandra Shaker. This is in India. I was born in India and came to the United States at age nine. So Dr. Chandra Shaker saved my life. That then propelled me to say, I want to do what this guy is doing. So I became a physician. And then after I became a physician, my biggest hero, my dad suffered a devastating stroke. And then I became, a patient advocate. So my dad, who was just, larger than life to me, he was a brilliant person and he basically became, dependent on myself and my family. So what I learned at that time was people need to understand how to be able to not only navigate the healthcare system, but try to figure out ways in which they don't suffer the same fate as my dad. So to me, we coined that phrase being a health hero, which is being your own health advocate, really making your health and wellness your focus. And when we took on that goal, when I say we, it was myself, my team, my wife is my partner in life and we said we're going to reach people and help them understand how to make health and wellness a part of their life. We developed a five pillar methodology, which is purpose-driven living, having nutrition, having movement, having spirituality and community. Those five pillars drive everything we do and that's the method that we use. But it goes back to saying, I want people to really have an idea of what to do to be able to live their best life. That's my motivation. That's when I get up in the morning, I jump out of bed because why? I know what I want to accomplish. You have to find that. It's the first step, right? In order to not zap your energy. It's the first step having purpose-driven living. And I think that if you have a purpose in mind, then you know, other things just fall by the wayside. You don't sit there and pick up this thing and say, oh, let me look at, something for an hour and just mindlessly, because you want to be able to accomplish whatever goal you're having. So have purpose-driven living. But then to me, energy and performing at the highest level. It's not just like pithy sayings or, rah, you can do it. It's about biology. It's really about optimizing your biology. What I mean by that is using your five pillars that I talked about, purpose defines it, it helps your body really achieve incredible things. Why? Because when you are not aimlessly wandering around trying to find. What you're doing, and you have no idea, the cortisol level in your body decreases, right? So, when cortisol decreases, inflammation decreases. When inflammation decreases, your focus in your mind increases, your cardiovascular outputs better. You have less pain, you have less fatigue, you have all the things just from being purpose-driven and not being aimless. Multiple studies have shown just having purpose. The second thing to me is, you know what? Having the right nutrition, and that of course means the food that you're eating to make sure you're giving your body the right fuel to be able to then perform these things at your best people who are leaders that want to be able to do more than just show up. They want to be able to express their ideas to be able to transform people's lives. You need to have the right fuel to keep you going. And when I say nutrition, I of course mean getting the right diet, getting enough hydration, but I also mean the input that you get, right? Like the books that you read, the people that you listen to, the podcast, right? Like you're listening to now podcasts, YouTube videos that you're looking at that you get the right nutrition to fuel you. It's super important. I think also movement. Movement is key. So, there are a lot of people in my profession who just the only thing they know is that you just outwork people. It's the classic American dream, right? You just comment.

Allison: 8:29

Oh my gosh, everyone feels like that. I'm not doing enough. I see this person doing like they're speaking at this conference. Maybe I should speak at that conference. Oh my gosh, stick to your but like eyes on your own paper, stick to your knitting. The audience, the people they serve are not the people you serve. And also your message is totally different. And just because you're in the same peer group doesn't mean you're the same. And what you're saying though, about how being focused and mindful about what you put into your body, your nogging, and the body that we all live in really feeds is the fuel for your focus.

Dr. Nandi: 9:16

Correct. You wouldn't put in diesel into your gasoline engine and then expect it to just purr the whole way through. It's going to sputter and die. We often put a lot of diesel into our gasoline engines.

Allison: 9:27

I mean, thanksgiving Day itself is evidence of that. Does anyone do anything after Thanksgiving, Turkey. They wear looser clothes so that they can stuff themselves, like the Turkey and then plan to take a nap. That's a big day, big Thanksgiving day.

Dr. Nandi: 9:45

What you're doing is, if you look at the biology, you're changing your microbiome with the wrong input. And what the microbiome is for those of you may not know and most of you do know, but it's a trillion member army that's in your intestine. And the microbiome we now understand controls so much of what you do. And so much of your health. And so when you talked about, Thanksgiving day, but for most people, you know the amount of stress that they have talking about just what you did, which is the FOMO fear that they're not good enough, that somebody else is better, that they need to be doing 12 different podcasts or 16 keynotes or whatever it is. But you stick to what you're doing, but give yourself the right tools, right? So I said nutrition movement is really important. You have to be able to know every single day your body changes. With movement, your body's entire biology changes with movement, not only do you get more strength, we understand that and more stamina. It changes your gut health, it changes your brain health. We now know multiple studies that show that the amount of neurotransmitters which are the chemicals that change your behavior. For example, serotonin. Serotonin is the feel-good hormone that keeps you motivated. When you have more movement, I don't mean, lifting 500 pounds or running marathons. A simple movement increases that serotonin. So I think if you do that, the last two are just having community, having like-minded people, right? Not Yes. Men. Yes. like-minded people. Like yourself saying, Hey, you know what? Because you have a community. You're developing this community and your community looks to you to give them advice, give that support is not only invigorating for ideas, it's invigorating for your body and biology, just like purpose. Community-based living decreases the amount of cortisol, decreases all of the what we call catecholamines things that just get your body revved up, it decreases, it gets you in a sense of equilibrium. If you have community in your life, there are multiple studies that show that even just having community alone will be enough to reduce multiple diseases, increase focus. And the last one to me is very important to spirituality. When I tell people about spirituality, they often jump right into religion, which is fine. I'm religious. If you are, that's great. If you're not though, spirituality could just mean taking a walk in the garden. Could mean what I do, meditation every day. These are powerful tools. Again, to do what? To be able to preserve your energy, your vitality, so you can preserve your version. And I'll call it the American Dream because we're in America. But I think it's a worldwide phenomena. The American dream used to be this out, hustle, outwork, don't sleep, drink as many cups of coffee, do whatever you need to do. The new American dream to me is to really have a focus on vitality where rest is as important as going nuts because then it changes your biology, changes your focus so you can accomplish the things that you want to do.

Allison: 12:47

When you talk about protecting your health, what I hear you saying is that focusing on your health, protecting your health is actually how we can protect our productivity. That's right. Because I know that you help leaders and corporations and associations really protect the culture of their teams by protecting the individual and giving them a welcome to focus on their health. No one thinks that the person toiling 16 hours a day is the one who's going to get the promotion because they make it look sweaty and hard and just like a terrible task because it is for them. And also they never become more productive somehow. Yeah. You know, they make it look hard because they never rest. They don't eat a grape, they're eating out of their desk, just, whatever crackers are left over.

Dr. Nandi: 13:51

But that's what we've been trained to do. This is now 2025. But generations have told people that you have to do that. And that's the antiquated idea. We now know, for example, Ford a hundred years ago changed the work week and actually became more productive. And you can do that. It's not about just toiling until you're done, like you said it's looking at your biology and saying, how can I be more productive in a shorter period of time? But also understanding what it is you want to do so that when you are productive, you are doing the activities that really forward your ideas. They actually help you to be able to get that dream of yours to be successful. Because often if we don't have purposeful thinking, purpose-driven, living along with the caveats of having the right inputs, you then are doing work and you're doing productive stuff, but it's not productive towards what you want and what you feel is important. And when I talk to companies, each of these people that I'm talking to are individuals, but collectively, the entire company goes around me, I don't have to tell you how much turnover there is. I'm a board member on a company that, that is their revenues well over$200 million. And we do these meetings, Allison, and they have these board decks, meaning, you know, the notes. Right? On the appendix was employee wellness, satisfaction and turnover. And I said to them, there is zero chance of us as a company to be able to succeed if we're not looking at those parameters of employers and employee health, our team members being healthy. And again, it's not about just motivating people, it's about looking at their biology to see what can we do to really be able to optimize your activity. Whether you're a physician that wants to, then branch out and write a book or do television, or if it's, you are somebody who is working on the line. And you want to be able to be more active in your community to be able to volunteer. We all have different measures of success, right? I think whether each of those activities are different than your normal job or your normal act, your day. And I think Sure. When you make yourself more productive in using these. These tools and skills, you become more fulfilled and you resurrect your life. And one of my friends who speaks and he talks about the buried life, he talks about how your life can be buried and your dreams can really be crushed. I think if you use this methodology of vitality, you can then revitalize those activities that are really important to life and on the workplace. Your team members will see you just thrive on a personal level, you'll feel incredibly satisfied. And then guess what? Those people are not burned out. They're not turning over. You're not trying to train a person every six months and your company's going down the dumps because you can't achieve the kind of success you're achieving

Allison: 16:51

There is something so refreshing to hear you talk about your experience on this board. You don't know this about me, but I led media relations at Pepsi and I led PR at Unilever, and employer branding at SaaS Analytics, which was number one on the Great Place to Work list, two years running, which is an effort I led. And when the company went from number 20 to number one. On the Fortune best companies to work for list, but it's led by a great place to work. So the great place to work is the company that does all the analytics. When we went from number 20 to number one, they had to double the amount of recruiters in HR because the amount of applications for each job doubled overnight like this. And turnover went from, it was already very high because SAS was so highly ranked. It went from 97.9% to 99%. So only 1% turnover. So when I was at sas. What we learned is that when people understood not only their job responsibility, but the impact, the ripple effect it had for the company, they had more pride in ownership, and they achieved their goals faster. When we say productivity, we didn't mean they were able to produce more things, but the goal and the objective were met with less fewer obstacles. Less friction, because everyone understood what their role was and how it led to the purpose. And when you were speaking about productivity, what occurred to me is that most people don't actually understand what the end goal is of their purpose. They're thinking about the milestone that gets them there. But your goal was so clear because you understood what success looked like.

Dr. Nandi: 19:12

That's exactly right.

Allison: 19:13

Which is different.

Dr. Nandi: 19:15

For everybody, it is different for everybody. And I love the fact that you brought up these incredibly giant companies that people would not necessarily attribute to having, employee health and employee wellness as categories that are important. But you're absolutely right. I think if we can do that. Do you have a Wegmans where you are in your part of the world like when store

Allison: 19:39

Yes.

Dr. Nandi: 19:39

It's an incredible story how when you pay attention to the input nutritional inputs of the employees, what happens to the productivity and what happens to making those employees really loyal to your company, but also make their lives enjoyable? There are multiple examples of how when companies do this and they do it for individuals. Then the entire company not only thrives, but the individual thrives. And then as a doctor, what I love is, here's the side effect. They have less heart attacks, they have less autoimmune disease. They're not going to the doctor with bloating, et cetera, because as in my practice, top five every single time of reasons why people come and talk to me and they say, I was in the office today and the lady came in with, bloating, discomfort, left sided pain, which is almost intractable. And I said, let's just talk about, what it could be. But tell me what's going on and when is it worse? Almost always top five reasons work and what happens at the workplace, right? My boss, my coworkers this woman did her administration. She's a teacher and love the students, but the administration just kills me. So my point is that when we expand to what happens in people's lives, we spend more time at work, traditionally, most people do, than any other place. And if we can revitalize, and this is what I do in my talks, that how can we revitalize the workplace so that you can use true biology, true evidence-based biology to say if we do these simple changes, right? Then you can uplift the health of the individual. By the way, the side effect for the company is that they do really well because the fact is if they have happy employees that are not burnt out, that are not having a lot of turnover, all you have to do is if you look at I don't go to many fast food restaurants, but if you ever go to a Chick-fil-A, it's always full. It's not just the food. The people there, behave in a certain way and there are multiple places where people, when they're given the right direction, Delta Airlines is one. And they're not perfect. But if you go there, the way they treat their people with multiple, avenues that they direct them, I think people do well. To me, as a physician, I like it because their health, is also uplifted. And then it also increases productivity. To me, it's not just about the company doing well, like you talked about with Pepsi or any of these giant companies. Yeah. It's also about uplifting the individual. Like I said, a rising tide, right? People lies including your team members, especially in this environment, there's so many things that are happening in the world, whether you like it or not, or supportive of it or not still, there's a lot of unrest and a lot of anxiety that people have. And I think there's an opportunity to be able to then take that and really use that energy to be able to fuel your success, whatever that success could be.

Allison: 22:40

You're really speaking to something that people can control because if the thing holding you back from getting more book sales or even getting a book deal. If it's a lot of people think, oh, it's my platform. What if it's not your platform? Maybe it's your energy or your lack of focus. Maybe you're too foggy or you feel like you're always one step from burnout, so you haven't even had the energy to spend an hour or even five minutes focusing on what do you really want? What's the end result, the end goal of your efforts? Then it's nearly impossible to set up what the milestones are to get there, whether it's grow your audience or speak on stage or contribute to media, but what you've done with first contributing to your local TV station, and now you have this amazing show, ask Dr. Nandi, that's syndicated in over 90 million homes. Come on. And your book, heal Your Gut, save Your Brain, your publisher is the Mayo clinic, mayo Clinic Press.

Dr. Nandi: 23:54

And my first book was by Simon Schuster. Yeah. But you're absolutely right. You can do a lot of things and I think you're right on. But I do think, does a platform matter? Absolutely, but your platform will be created. And will respond to you when you have the right energy and the right focus. And you have then taken the time to really understand what your purpose is. In my first book that I talked about, I just called it, asked Dr. Nandi five steps to living a joyful life and what I talk about there is do a simple exercise and people don't even do something as basic as that. Take a piece of paper on the left hand side, you put the things that you really enjoy. You feel that this is giving me purpose. This is giving me joy on the right hand side, you do the stuff that you really don't want to do, but you do it anyway. When you start doing something as simple as that and really identifying what it is that you are. Wanting to do and capable of doing, listen, we all have to take out the garbage and we all have to, go talk to the plumber. If there's a leak, that's his life, right? Get it? Yes. But beyond that, we spend a lot of time, wasted time on doing things that are aimless. So when you start to identify what it is you want to do, and then as you pointed out so well, is that then put the energy towards that, guess what? Your platform will increase because no matter. Even if people don't agree with you, right? There are many people I'm sure you don't agree with and I don't agree with, but you can tell the passion and you can understand their sense of purpose that that's coming through. And whether you like it or not, that will attract you to them. So, that's how you develop a platform. You develop a platform first by having a purpose and understanding what, not just following a trend because you can Google or go to, AI and say what is the biggest trend? And try to follow that. It could work, right? But I think if you do.

Allison: 25:45

But then you're always a follower.

Dr. Nandi: 25:46

Correct. But if you go back inside and say, this is what drives me. People will see that and they'll follow. You have a platform, so when you have a platform and then you want to write about a topic, same idea. What do you want to write about? Do you just want to write about something because you think it'll sell well? Or A publisher will like it and that could work. But what will really work right, will really work to make a paradigm shifting book that you think can impact lives will come from you and if you then give yourself enough nutritional input movement and give it community spirituality, then you what? What happens is that you then your energy rises to such a level. That you're just oozing out the stuff that you're talking about. And then that will be attractive knowledge to a publisher. But to readers.

Allison: 26:32

Right. to the people that you want to serve, showing up with more presence and purposeful presence allows you to say no to things. And oh my gosh, the confidence and the power that comes from saying, no, that's not for me, because I know where I'm meant to be. Ugh. So delightful. I love when I can remove something from my plate, just like I'm not going to be doing that anymore. It doesn't interest me, and I know it's not going to get me to where I need to go.

Dr. Nandi: 27:07

And also, when I pitched Simon Schuster, I didn't pitch just a book. I pitched a movement that I said, this is how we live. This is how my patients live, this is how all of my community lives. And. Yeah, I had a social media presence over a million and a half, but that came with the same message. So when you're congruent and things align, you then can do the things you want to do. Which is okay to have success in a way that's meaningful to you. And which is Simons books or being whatever it is. It is okay. It doesn't mean that you're less of a person or more of a person. It just means that's the conduit you want. But remember, it all comes back to where this idea is coming from, what place it's coming from. When it comes from a place where really you're being true to yourself, the energy rises. You can tell from talking to someone for two minutes, whether they are, they, they really are true to themselves or passionate or just, just trying to sell you something. And the moment you don't believe them. Then you turn it off and that's what happens for your platform, your social people scroll by because they can immediately tell that this gal or guy is really just saying this to get some likes. But if they feel like you really are motivated and are purposeful with energy, I think you develop a platform, develop that platform. You can write a book, you can be on television, you can be an expert. And then it's also right it's dedication. It's really understanding that success doesn't happen overnight. It's a cliche, but lots of people feel like, oh my gosh, why is that person doing that?

Allison: 28:45

Why do they have a book? They have a book because their audience leaned in and said we want more. And so, you wrote it down like at some point it's because the book fulfills the audience's desire. Or their

Dr. Nandi: 29:03

You did over a period of time. You just didn't show up one day and say, I'm going to do this. But a lot of people that I speak to they say I know I'm just as good as that person. But I said, do you know that person's been doing this for a decade? You know the Malcolm Gladwells, right? 10,000 hours that it is so true. The Beatles didn't just show up, right? The Beatles, for people who are old enough to remember it or know the Beatles, like the Beatles came and people say, oh, it's an overnight success. Overnight success. Can't believe it. Check that. Or so there's countless examples. Of that, you have to put in the time and dedication. And that comes with having optimal energy. And that comes with having purpose-driven living and giving yourself the inputs that you need to be able to accomplish that. And that's biology. That's just not me saying it. There's proof all over the place that can happen. You can do it multiple ways. To me, I feel really maximizing your gut health, which is so important. It really accentuates all parts of your life and it'll give you the energy that you need if you concentrate your gut. To me, the gut is the center of it all. If we can in the future, medicine will be practiced in such a different way where we are going to identify the gut as almost the center where they have so many tentacles that go through the entire body. And we're seeing more and more evidence, not just in US, but in Asia and Africa and Europe, all over the place to be able to show that. And I think that the nice thing, and you said as well, is something you can control. It's not your destiny or boy that must be nice to be born to those parents or whatever the excuse is right. This is in your control. And in your hand that you can shape the clay that's been given to you.

Allison: 30:43

Dr. Nandi, let me ask you two questions. You are such a reader. What's a book aside from your own, because we will have that in the show notes. What's a book that people should be reading right now?

Dr. Nandi: 30:55

I like the book, indestructable. I don't don't know if you've ever read it. I think it's near Yal is the author, but Indestructable And what's nice about it is a little bit about what we've been talking about. This is an individual who worked, I believe in social media. He worked with all of the social and digital media companies to really explain to them how to get us hooked, that we're just scrolling for an hour.

Allison: 31:18

Yeah.

Dr. Nandi: 31:19

He then writes a book, talking about how you then become in distractible, meaning that you're not, while you're playing with your child, trying to check your email or scrolling through things. Yeah. When you are writing your book. That you're not watching people do this. Watching the show on the side, watching the watch, just being absolutely not distractible. It's a very powerful book. It's a simple concept, but he breaks it down to how you do it. And I thought it was a very easy read. I love also it's a big plug for Audible or the, equivalent. Especially if you're in Big cities, you're com it commutes all over commuting, right? Yeah. Instead of just. I keep messing with social media. I've been so scrolling and watching the person jumping off something or doing something crazy, read a book. I get so much. I have a 45 minute commute. And I literally get a book read every week. So Indestructible is I think a great book. I think it's perfect for what we're talking about when you are trying to really hone in on your energy and your focus and your purpose and trying to be able to be successful. I think that's a great book.

Allison: 32:32

Thank you. Now, before we call this podcast complete, what's one tip you want to leave people with? What's one thing they should do today?

Dr. Nandi: 32:42

I think that find you know, from one of the pillars I talked about, which is purpose, which is community, which is spirituality, nutrition, or movement. Find one activity from each of those and promise to do it in the next week. And then, remember that even though it often seems like it's a giant mountain in front of you, you take a step at a time, you reach that mountain and you'd be surprised how easy and achievable it becomes. And that's what when I said we're going to start a television show, it was, who does that? People don't do that. That gets syndicated. But we started slow, we took one step at a time, and then Mountain became reality. And we've done 261 hours of a syndicated television show and we're, we're super proud and we're changing lives, so.

Allison: 33:29

That's amazing. And it all started because you had a singular. Yeah. You had a real focus. Thank you so much for being here and sharing your wisdom and your message and your knowledge with us. We really appreciate your selflessness with sharing because these creatives who listen in or who are already seasoned authors, but they want to be speakers, or maybe they want to be on a board seat, or they want to be doing keynotes, not just speaking at the conference, but they want to be the closer. There's always the next step and you seem to have achieved those goals because you've set them. So, let this be a lesson to you who's listening right now. And I know you're on your commute because everyone's on their commute or you're walking the dogs or you're folding laundry. because it is mindless and so horrible. But the laundry does not stop. But you think about what you can set as your goal. And on the way there, choose one of the five pillars and Dr. Nandi said, choose one and promise to do something this week I'm going to one up you and say, today. Today, you can stop right now. If you're in your home, stand up and touch your toes, and that counts as movement. You are welcome. You can reach out for community and you can send me an email. I'm your community. I know you're folding the clothes. I know you're driving, but you can think of someone you can call with your Bluetooth. You can think of what do I really want the end result of my efforts to be? What is you, the purpose that the book that you want to write isn't the end. because the book will come out. And then what? So the book is really a milestone on the way to your purpose. So, I love that you're challenging us to be certain about what is the end goal? Because it's never the end. It's just you achieved this and now what? Then what? It's so good. Thank you so much and we will have everything you mentioned in the show notes and I'm so excited to find out what everyone is going to do first. Are you going to look at spirituality first? Are you going to look at community? Are you going to look at nutrition or movement or a missing one?

Dr. Nandi: 36:08

Community, nutrition movement, and spirituality.

Allison: 36:11

Yes. But the first one was purpose, correct?

Dr. Nandi: 36:14

Correct. Purpose drives everything.

Allison: 36:16

Purpose drives everything. You heard it here first.